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Post by piper19 on Nov 28, 2013 11:22:05 GMT -6
Hello everybody, first of all congrats on your guitar book series; they are nice. I'm currently in the first book progressing very well. Until I came at page 67, using 6ths to imply chords. It states to use your knowledge of chords and your ear to find more sixths, but I just cannot see how the sixths are formed on the fretboard. How can I find sixth shapes on the fretboard while playing (that means without a lot of thinking). I mastered all the scales mentioned in the book very well, and they are are fixed shapes you can learn. I cannot find a fixed pattern for sixth at the moment. I can see a major 6th interval is A to F#, which is e.g. the 7th fret D string and 7th fret B string in the exercise. But where do the other forms come from? e.g. C# to A...
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Post by JohnG on Nov 29, 2013 15:08:38 GMT -6
Hi Piper19,
First of all, thanks for your kind words. I'm always glad to hear that my books are helpful.
With regard to the 6ths: I have to work up a diagram that will help you to see how they work. That's something I wish I would have done when I first wrote BYCU. Keep looking in, I'll get it up in the near future.
One last note: whatever kind of music you play, you do have to think about what you're doing. But it's fun.
JG
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james
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Post by james on Oct 12, 2014 3:57:32 GMT -6
Hi there. Just like piper19, I have also become stuck with this exercise on 6ths on page 67 of the book.
Please can someone explain it to me?
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Post by Phil on Oct 12, 2014 4:51:06 GMT -6
Hi there. Just like piper19, I have also become stuck with this exercise on 6ths on page 67 of the book. Please can someone explain it to me? James, Welcome to the forum. We need some new blood around here. I'm not sure what your question is precisely. Are you confused over what is meant by the term "6th's" or where they lay on the finger board or something else? If you could reformulate your question I'm sure somebody here can answer it. We've all been through this at one time. If you are on Lesson 16 then you're starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel. I hope you become a regular participant here. We share a lot of good information and try to help each other out. Phil
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Post by cunningr on Oct 12, 2014 6:28:57 GMT -6
I am not there yet, but wanted to welcome you guys to the forum.
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Post by jack1982 on Oct 12, 2014 6:43:11 GMT -6
I think the 6th interval comes from the top and bottom notes of triad inversions. Here's an article on triad inversions: www.premierguitar.com/articles/Deep_Blues_Blue_Triads He shows the same A7, D7 E7 progression that's on page 67 of the book, and if you look at the fretboard diagrams you can see how the notes on page 67 correspond to the top and bottom notes of those triad inversions. The guy's explanation of how he builds those triads is long and involved though Maybe a simpler way to think about it would be as a chord scale idea. Those dominant 7th chords on page 67 have a root, major third, 5th and minor 7th, which corresponds to the Mixolydian mode. If you go to a scale generator: www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator/ and bring up the A Moxilyian mode (hit "all" under "positions" to see the whole fretboard) you'll see that all the notes for the A7 chord on page 67 correspond to notes from that mode. Some are going to be notes from the chord, and other just fit the sound because that mode is built from the same notes as the chord. And the notes of D and E Mixolydian are going to correspond to the other two chords on page 67. You can kind of figure out which pairs of notes are a 6th apart and go from there. Of course other types of chords would correspond to other scales - major chords would correspond to the major scale, minor chords would correspond to the minor scale, etc.
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james
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Post by james on Oct 13, 2014 7:54:53 GMT -6
OK, I think I have a better idea of what to do now, seeing that it's all related to the mixolydian scale.
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Post by james on Oct 26, 2014 8:45:24 GMT -6
Hey again. Thanks guys, after thinking about this a lot I have finally figured it out and I've almost completed the exercise in all keys.
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