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Post by cunningr on Nov 11, 2014 10:49:46 GMT -6
Well I have been counting aloud repeating and listening to this tune to the point I need an external check to see if I am getting my timing better. I think it is better but maybe fluctuates a little. Anyway been listening to practice track counting and the Backing tract and I followed through the book counting the beats so hopefully I am closer, this may be an on going issue I need to work on. soundcloud.com/alabama-blues/lazydayblues1-2Thanks, Rich |
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Post by silverthorne on Nov 11, 2014 11:36:37 GMT -6
Hi! This recording is definetely better than previous  Okay, let's start nitpicking. All about the first part of recording. What I've noticed: the very beginning - sounds good for me measure #3 - you are hurrying too much here. First note from group of four should be played on drum beat measure #6 - after the bend on E string next note (9th fret on E right after the bend) should be played with the drum beat measure #7 - first note from group of four should be played on drum beat, similar to measure #3 measure #10 - obviously you are skipping some notes in this lick, I can hear that you're playing 8 7 9B 7 9 instead of 8 7 9 9B 7 9. measure #11 - you're starting the ending (9 6 | 9 7 | 8 6 | 8 7 8) too early. Also first notes from triplets should be synchronized with beat - for example, in first ending it should be 9th fret on B, 6th fret on G and the very last note - 8th fret on D. |
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Post by Phil on Nov 11, 2014 11:47:25 GMT -6
I think you finally got it, Rich! Sounds good. I've gotta give you credit - you take a licking and keep on ticking. Your persistence has paid off. Other people may have just given up and moved on to something else.
Leave this one on the back burner for a while and move on. Come back to it in a couple of weeks and see if you can smooth out bars 9&10 a little more. In my book I have circles and asterisks around those 2 measures. I had a very hard time with them. It's very tricky to get them to flow nicely with that held bend, 16th note triplets, dotted 1/4 notes, dotted rests, and tied notes.
I'm having to practice what I preach. There's a section in "Blues a la Chord" where I'm counting out loud. It's not an easy thing to do. I also had to do it in a section of "Sweet Home Chicago" because I could not get the timing correct any other way. It definitely does help.
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Post by jack1982 on Nov 11, 2014 12:00:49 GMT -6
Rich that's much, MUCH better! You're starting and ending each phrase on time. Just the subtleties and the "feel" left to go...and the bends of course I think in measure ten (last bar in the third line) you're leaving out the third and ninth notes, which is tempting to do because they're fairly fast lol. But hey, great job, I think you've got that basic timing problem pretty much licked, just fine tuning to do now. |
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Post by cunningr on Nov 11, 2014 12:19:11 GMT -6
Thanks for the positive feedback. Honestly this recording was focused on getting the timing in so I am content, I already knew some bends were flat and some fluctuations.
I still don't think I have the timing completely licked, I am sure it is going to be an inherent problem I have to work on. Yeh counting out loud and playing is hard, but I started the next lesson today and first thing I did was listen without belaying and counting.
Anyway thanks for the positive and negative feedback.
Rich
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Post by Phil on Nov 11, 2014 15:31:16 GMT -6
Rich,
I was looking at the big picture and how this compares with previous versions and other stuff you've posted. Silverthorne was zeroing in on the fine points. Which is good, but I don't think you'll have a problem tightening up the fine points now that you've got the bigger problem solved. You are on the right track taking this one step at a time.
I don't think this is going to be an ongoing problem as long as you continue doing whatever it is you are doing to fix it. From what I've seen on other forums, the timing thing seems to be a major problem for many people. If you can count out loud and play at the same time you are well on your way to putting this behind you. I can only do it very slowly, and I'll bet their are people here that think they can do it, but haven't actually tried it. It's not easy.
It's time for "Ninth Chord Blues" You're gonna like that one. It's a little harder than it sounds.
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Post by cunningr on Nov 11, 2014 15:50:53 GMT -6
Thanks Phil, yeh I think the counting probably provoked some of those other errors as I don't think I had them in the first version, but was running a beat ahead.
I started ninth chord blues worked through the first 5 or six bars, I already see some hard parts.
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Post by bluesbruce on Nov 11, 2014 16:57:46 GMT -6
Rich, big giant steps in the right direction! Good job - keep right on counting, that's the best timing I've heard you play with.
Bruce
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Post by cunningr on Nov 11, 2014 17:04:56 GMT -6
Thanks still a couple of spots where I drifted. I am going to focus more attention to my timing, damn hard to count aloud and play. I spent a lot of time counting and reading the tab while the practice track played.
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Post by jack1982 on Nov 12, 2014 6:26:50 GMT -6
The guy in my Bass Grooves book counts 4/4 like dig-a-chick-a dig-a-chick-a instead of one-e-and-a two-e-and-a; it's more rhythmic like a drumbeat and it's easy to play a note right on those short, sharp little sounds. For triplet / shuffle feel he uses ba-ch-da ba-ch-da. Though you can make up any sounds you like I suppose, a good shuffle would be ba-da-chick ba-da-chick, since the middle note is usually left out you end up with ba chick-ba chick-ba chick-ba, which sounds like a shuffle just saying it |
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Post by wannaplayblues on Nov 12, 2014 18:40:58 GMT -6
cunningr You can really hear the improvement. Good job!
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