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Post by wannaplayblues on Nov 10, 2014 8:20:45 GMT -6
Looking back overt this post, it's a bit of a mind-dump. I think I just needed to say it to others who may understand me... So, when I first started guitar learning I signed up for loads of emails from various online guitar learning individuals. I've noticed how they all recommend each other "...my good buddy is making an amazing offer...", "...one time only...", "...12 hours left then it's gone..." Though I have yet to spend the money on what they offer, I must say, I get tempted when they promise to allow me to "play fluidly all over the neck", "break out blistering solos whenever" I want, etc. I guess it all comes down to a desire to be that good guitar player as quickly as possible. I mean, facing the reality of sitting there with your guitar for hours at a time working on things is a sobering and hard reality to face. I avoid YouTube and the like - I feel the videos of "Here's a cool lick" seem to be more of the player showing off their ability than actually educating someone. I also find too many quite basic "Here's the A Minor Pentatonic box, now you know blues. Go make stuff with it!" I have piles of guitar books. Literally piles. I feel almost embarrassed to own so many. They've all been in a bid to find the author/tutor whose style works for me. I've settled for a handful and with a formalized practice structure I'm hoping to see a difference - and reduced purchases  Just wish I'd started earlier/younger... I could be so much better now! What if I never make it as a decent guitar player? (in my own home, not pro or anything like that) I mean, I want to be able to solo. I want to be able to pick up the guitar and hear it play something bluesy from my own mind and fingers! All those offers are just *SO* tempting. |
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Post by jack1982 on Nov 10, 2014 12:14:50 GMT -6
I don't think there's much point in anybody who's already got a lot of books buying any of that "Master the fretboard in 7 days!!! - Amaze your friends!!! - Once in a lifetime offer!!!" stuff - it's just going to be the exact same stuff you've already got in a half dozen other books. Says the guy with 50+ guitar books  I mostly buy stuff that covers information that my other books don't really focus on, or styles that I like and want to learn. Or ones with pretty covers I often wonder why I've got three classical guitar books and a flamenco book - and I don't even own a nylon string acoustic. |
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Post by Phil on Nov 10, 2014 14:20:01 GMT -6
I often wonder why I've got three classical guitar books and a flamenco book - and I don't even own a nylon string acoustic. I actually laughed out loud when I read that. That's classic. |
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Post by bluesbruce on Nov 10, 2014 19:01:12 GMT -6
Looking back overt this post, it's a bit of a mind-dump. I think I just needed to say it to others who may understand me... So, when I first started guitar learning I signed up for loads of emails from various online guitar learning individuals. I've noticed how they all recommend each other "...my good buddy is making an amazing offer...", "...one time only...", "...12 hours left then it's gone..." Though I have yet to spend the money on what they offer, I must say, I get tempted when they promise to allow me to "play fluidly all over the neck", "break out blistering solos whenever" I want, etc. I guess it all comes down to a desire to be that good guitar player as quickly as possible. I mean, facing the reality of sitting there with your guitar for hours at a time working on things is a sobering and hard reality to face. I avoid YouTube and the like - I feel the videos of "Here's a cool lick" seem to be more of the player showing off their ability than actually educating someone. I also find too many quite basic "Here's the A Minor Pentatonic box, now you know blues. Go make stuff with it!" I have piles of guitar books. Literally piles. I feel almost embarrassed to own so many. They've all been in a bid to find the author/tutor whose style works for me. I've settled for a handful and with a formalized practice structure I'm hoping to see a difference - and reduced purchases Just wish I'd started earlier/younger... I could be so much better now! What if I never make it as a decent guitar player? (in my own home, not pro or anything like that) I mean, I want to be able to solo. I want to be able to pick up the guitar and hear it play something bluesy from my own mind and fingers! All those offers are just *SO* tempting. Wannaplay, You've definitely got company here! If Jack has only got 50 guitar books, I bet I've got him beat hands down! I've come to the realization, though, that there is no "miracle" shortcut. You WILL get better if you stick with a defined line of study - like BYCU. Will you be a professional level player when you finish BYCU? NO. But will you have a good basic education on blues guitar? YES. At that point, you'll be ready to take on any of the other BYCU courses. You'll also be good enough to start building some repertoire of blues and rock songs. And perhaps most importantly, you'll see definite progress, which will spur you to stick with it. You're absolutely right about internet tuition. All of it (that I've seen) lacks any true direction - that is, it doesn't take you anywhere systematically. As a result, you don't see any progress, and fall by the wayside. WPB, I'd just try to assure you that you're on a good pathway, and that you're making progress. Stay the course! In the end, you'll be glad you did! Bruce |
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Post by cunningr on Nov 11, 2014 0:12:38 GMT -6
Bruce,
You sum it up perfectly, I don have a lot of instruction books personally but I have looked at the internet stuff and I own another famous instructors course that is pretty good but not in current use as I feel I am progressing with the BYCU books. I do have a lot of old guitar magazines for the tab. I also have 2 nylon string acoustics getting dusty.
Rick
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Post by jack1982 on Nov 11, 2014 9:04:16 GMT -6
I also have 2 nylon string acoustics getting dusty. I've got some books you can borrow  |
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Post by cunningr on Nov 11, 2014 10:53:01 GMT -6
Too Bad your aren't closer we could work out a trade maybe . I bought the second guitar because my wife said she wanted to learn how to play, hell never even touched it other than to move it so I ended up with 2 identical Yamaha classical guitars. I got more equipment than talent, but to me its more about the enjoyment something I do for myself. |
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Post by wannaplayblues on Nov 12, 2014 18:41:12 GMT -6
Thanks for the support and feedback guys!
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Post by joachim on Nov 15, 2014 5:35:51 GMT -6
Hey y'all I agree wth Rich, Bruce sums it up perfectly... many ways to the goal, but you have to walk there yourself, just a matter of taste if and which guide you chose to lead the way... however, although I know I probably won't make friends here by pointing this out, I'd like to say this is John's site... my educated guess is that the forum is not only meant for us students to exchange, but is also meant to promote the BYCU series - I think it's not a good place to discuss and present other learning materials too much and thereby showcase the competition... I guess life for the working musician is hard enough as it is, the lucky ones have something to rely on tho somehow make a living - let's not spoil this for our favorite blues author... last but not least we decided to stick with the BYCU series for a reason, right? You may start the beating now. Greetings, t. Tbone, that's a valid concern - as a consequence I edited parts out from my reply to Phil's T-bone Walker post. I meant well, but I agree that's probably better not to discuss other lecture material here. Thanks for pointing it out in a civil manner! |
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Post by jack1982 on Nov 15, 2014 7:34:23 GMT -6
Tbone, I understand what you're saying, but as soon as you start telling people they can't talk about something on a certain site, they'll go to some other site where they can - and we've got 9 people here and some other forum may have 900 or 9,000, and it's not long before they forget about this place all together. I've seen it happen on another site I used to post at - which shall remain nameless - but they got rid of their ancillary boards and started closing any thread which wasn't on topic - and turned a thriving little community into a complete ghost town.
Besides, I find it very motivating to hear what other people are working on. Some guys have posted fingerpicking stuff which got me to buy a fingerpicking book and now I'm having a whole lot of fun with that. And we're all good friends here and if somebody's working on other stuff, I find it very interesting. Not to mention that with only 9 people here, any and all additional content added to this board is greatly appreciated.
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Post by blackcountrymick on Nov 15, 2014 16:56:20 GMT -6
It might be good if John G gave his thoughts on what is acceptable or not to post, at least then we would know we are not treading on his toes.
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Post by wannaplayblues on Nov 16, 2014 1:20:16 GMT -6
I have always been uncertain on the subject of other material - so only ever stated it as "other material"
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Post by cunningr on Nov 16, 2014 4:16:59 GMT -6
I think overall we don't overly promote other material, the name of the thread is everything blues so keeping discussion going other materials will come up sooner or later. But as Mick points out this is where John should let us know, I am sure he wouldn't want us to tell someone to buy other material above his, but in the sense of learning reccommending other books to enhance your learning. Normally forums have a sticky either topic rules.
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Post by joachim on Nov 16, 2014 5:00:28 GMT -6
I bet John G. would feel awkward having to tell us what goes and what doesn't around here. Better for us to just use common sense and perhaps give a friendly reminder, as T-bone did, if something well-meaning comes out the wrong way. I also agree with Jack that general discussion is needed here so people don't feel the need to move to a more general blues-guitar forum. We need to walk the thin line on our own here...
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