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Post by jack1982 on Aug 11, 2014 12:54:40 GMT -6
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Post by Phil on Aug 11, 2014 13:17:19 GMT -6
Jack,
If you want to earn the Steve Cropper award I'm afraid this one needs some serious tightening up. At this risk of sounding offensive - this is not up to your usual standards. I'm assuming that you are playing everything on this, which is quite a task and one that I'm not capable of. The rhythm section sounds very good, but it almost sounds like the lead is slightly out of tune. I don't know how many takes you did of this, but always double check your tuning before each re-take.
It also sounds like you are struggling with this tune. I think you might want to get more comfortable with this one before recording again. I don't have the book, but I get the impression that this study is technically much more difficult than it appears to be.
Phil
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Post by JohnG on Aug 11, 2014 13:21:16 GMT -6
Nice work, Jack. Your opening 6th in the lead part enters a bit early and the single-note part of the rhythm is a tad late. Play along with the CD and listen closely. I think you'll hear what I'm talking about. Otherwise, very strong performance.
JG
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 11, 2014 14:40:06 GMT -6
Thanks so much guys! You're right Phil, I broke the high E yesterday and forgot to tune it today and it was quite flat. And half the lead is on that string. And thank you so much John! I'll probably re-record this one and try to get both the lead and rhythm parts tightened up (and in tune  ). |
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Post by wannaplayblues on Aug 11, 2014 14:43:38 GMT -6
Jack - loved it!
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Post by Phil on Aug 11, 2014 14:54:39 GMT -6
Thanks so much guys! You're right Phil, I broke the high E yesterday and forgot to tune it today and it was quite flat. And half the lead is on that string. And thank you so much John! I'll probably re-record this one and try to get both the lead and rhythm parts tightened up (and in tune ). Thanks for taking my comments in stride and not being offended. I've listened to everything you've posted on this forum and I know that your are capable doing a better version of this. |
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Post by blackcountrymick on Aug 11, 2014 15:33:56 GMT -6
Jack, that really was a very good (with a few flaws) effort. I especially listed to your bass part because there is a lot of "off beat" rhythm in there and if that wasn't solid then nothing else would sound right, I hope when I tackle that one I do it as well as you did mate, great job. If you do intend to have another go at recording have a listen to how John uses different tones and levels to distinguish between the two guitar parts. It is more difficult in my opinion to achieve this with audio only, as a viewer of a video you can see what is actually going on and in a way influences what you actually hear - maybe? . |
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 12, 2014 5:37:43 GMT -6
Thanks guys! I'll definitely re-record this, and at the very least get the lead guitar in tune. I broke the high E the day before and of course the new one had gone way flat by the next day, but being a dunderhead I forgot to check it. How embarrassing  Well I guess you guys know why I have so much problem getting my bends to pitch now - I can't even hear if the guitar is in tune lol. I'll try to fix the timing on the single note line in the rhythm too - I imagine I started out doing it right but after playing along with my own backing track for a while, I gradually developed my own more relaxed phrasing for that. And I'll try to tighten up that lead part a bit too. Mick I plan on getting a video camera one of these days, but it seems like I keep spending all my money on guitar related impulse purchases lol. |
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 17, 2014 6:49:29 GMT -6
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Post by cunningr on Aug 17, 2014 7:06:39 GMT -6
Jack that was very good had an old 70's rock feel, I am trying to think which band and can't put my finger on BTO maybe. Only critical comment I would make is that I could quite hear the rhythm guitar part seemed like it needed to be a tad louder to mix with the lead a little more. I guess the lead was a little over power, of course this has to do with the recording mix and not the playing. I'll be glad when I get to yours and Phils level.
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Post by Phil on Aug 17, 2014 7:30:37 GMT -6
The new version is way better than the 1st one. A definite improvement. You've earned the Steve Cropper Award for this one.  I really like that intro with the "sliding sixes" (I think that's what you call it). |
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Post by blackcountrymick on Aug 17, 2014 9:38:51 GMT -6
Jack, that was very impressive and sounded great through headphones. I'm so hoping I find the time to start this book this week, after AFB off course.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 17, 2014 10:01:14 GMT -6
Thanks guys! Rich, I originally had the rhythm part louder but the problem was, with the lead and rhythm parts playing similar melodies in a similar spot on the fretboard, it's hard to distinguish between the two; notes from the lead would sound like they're part of the rhythm. So that's why I made the lead part so much louder - so you could tell which part was which. Mick - yeah I love the songs in this book, I'm sure you will too. It's a great change of pace from the blues stuff. Phil - I even checked that my guitar was in tune this time - just like the pro's do |
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Post by Phil on Aug 17, 2014 11:10:15 GMT -6
Phil - I even checked that my guitar was in tune this time - just like the pro's do You are on your way to fame and fortune. |
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 17, 2014 15:57:03 GMT -6
Jack,
A tip of the hat to you. That one sounded really good. Nicely done all around.
Bruce
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 18, 2014 5:11:36 GMT -6
Thanks Bruce!
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Well I guess you guys know why I have so much problem getting my bends to pitch now - I can't even hear if the guitar is in tune lol. 
I really like that intro with the "sliding sixes" (I think that's what you call it). 