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Post by cunningr on Jun 20, 2014 15:48:06 GMT -6
Hi All, Well after 62 takes and practicing 2 weeks my wife says I have to start on the next lesson because if she heres Blues Rock Tune again she will break my guitar over my head . Anyway here is the link to my 3rd recording soundcloud.com/alabama-blues/bycu-blues-rock-tune please feel free to make constructive comments. Its not perfect some chording issues towards the end; but due to circumstances beyond my control and preferring to keep the wife happy I decided to post. Set up: Recorded using IJAM connection into MAC Pro Garageband, Guitar Carvin DC 135 Humbuckers, 10.5's. After messing around for several days I think I have found a decent tone, still tweaking maybe a tad too much delay. I am a tone freak so I will probably never be happy. Thanks< Rich
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Post by TommyD on Jun 20, 2014 16:38:36 GMT -6
Hi Cunningr, the tone sounds great. I'm not sure if you are using echo or delay, but I think I would dial it back a bit. It sounds like you're hitting everything on time and getting the bends right. Have fun working on the next lesson, and be sure to duck if your wife swings the guitar at you!
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Post by cunningr on Jun 20, 2014 16:54:02 GMT -6
Thanks for the positive feedback. I agree little too much echo, last recording I selected something that turned the solo guitar into a midi sounding tone. Still haven't figured out what I did. Maybe I should get a hard hat just in case a random swipe come outta the void.
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Post by bluesbruce on Jun 20, 2014 16:59:19 GMT -6
Rich,
I think your timing and tone sound good. I kind of agree with TommyD on this - the echo/delay is too much for me. Of course, that's going to be a matter of personal preference... You're definitely ready to move on, the ax-wielding threat of your wife notwithstanding! Thanks for sharing. Are you recording dry and applying the effects afterwards? I'm not really familiar with the IJAM and it's capabilities.
Bruce
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Post by cunningr on Jun 20, 2014 18:08:16 GMT -6
The imam is basically a preamp the feeds into the USB, so goes guitar to ijam to USB. In garage band you select an amp and can add effects, and make adjustments. I added a echo pedal to the chain and turned it down some, but still too much for my taste as well after the midi incident I wanted to play it on the safe side on tweaking. I will play with it some more tomorrow.
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Post by Phil on Jun 21, 2014 2:40:40 GMT -6
Wow, Rich. A tremendous improvement over your last recording. Your playing and tone are good. Regarding echo: I found that just a tiny, almost imperceptible amount to give it some depth is enough. I think that at this stage it's important to stick to playing what's written. Once you learn it and can play it close to the example then you can tweak it all you want. I'm referring to the strummed chords. If you learn it as written it's a valuable lesson in rhythm, timing and holding a note for full duration. It should be 4 downstrokes right on the down beats, but the 2nd and 4th are cut short which gives it some rhythmic interest. Practice that part only a few times and you'll get it. Phil PS. I think you need to practice this tune a few more times this weekend. It would be best to use your Fender Bassman cranked up significantly so your wife can also enjoy it.
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Post by cunningr on Jun 21, 2014 4:30:39 GMT -6
Busted I think I rushed the beats a little worrying about the chord change, I think I will integrate it into my regular practice and move on. Speaking of the bassman I was using my carvin amps speaker but my son bought his electronic drums this week so have let him borrow the carvin amp. I might have to dig out the cabinet for the bassman.
I started lesson 3 and a little confused you get a new V7 finger for the practice do I just swap position with the previous version?
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Post by Phil on Jun 21, 2014 4:35:19 GMT -6
Rich, Check the homepage. There are supplements to the 1st few lessons with some very good tips including suggested fingerings. bluesyoucanuse.com/bycusupp.htmlPhil
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Post by Phil on Jun 21, 2014 4:37:55 GMT -6
Rich,
Just realized what you're asking. Keep in mind that the lesson material does not always go with the study. That V7 chord form is not in the study.
Phil
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Post by jack1982 on Jun 21, 2014 5:07:15 GMT -6
Nice job on that Cunningr, sounds like your timing is very good and I like your guitar tone too. It's probably too much delay for this song - of course that's up to you - but hey, when you get a new toy you've got to play with it, right? I agree with Phil about the chords, you should probably learn them as written - learning to play a rest, as there are after the second and fourth chord strums, is one of the trickier things in guitar playing; and it's an important skill to develop early on. Once you've got it down as written, then of course feel free to play it however you want. For that new V7 chord, you play that in the same position as the IV chord, you don't move it up 2 frets like the previous V chord. If you look on page 11, the little arrow next to the chords points towards the same fret in all of them, and the V chord is two frets above it. On page 14 you can see the new V chord is on the same fret as the arrow. Is that what you were wondering?
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Post by blackcountrymick on Jun 21, 2014 6:09:23 GMT -6
Nice Job, keep up the good work. I agree with Phil about trying to learn a study as close as possible to the written tab before expanding an putting your own twist on things. Have you thought about playing the first 12 bar set as written and the second play through with a bit of yourself added? Its a good way of learning how to improvise as you already have a structure to work with.
Cheers. Mick
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Post by cunningr on Jun 21, 2014 6:28:49 GMT -6
Nice job on that Cunningr, sounds like your timing is very good and I like your guitar tone too. It's probably too much delay for this song - of course that's up to you - but hey, when you get a new toy you've got to play with it, right? I agree with Phil about the chords, you should probably learn them as written - learning to play a rest, as there are after the second and fourth chord strums, is one of the trickier things in guitar playing; and it's an important skill to develop early on. Once you've got it down as written, then of course feel free to play it however you want. For that new V7 chord, you play that in the same position as the IV chord, you don't move it up 2 frets like the previous V chord. If you look on page 11, the little arrow next to the chords points towards the same fret in all of them, and the V chord is two frets above it. On page 14 you can see the new V chord is on the same fret as the arrow. Is that what you were wondering? Thanks jack that was what I was wondering, it's not very clear in the lesson. definitely have to play with the toys.
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Post by cunningr on Jun 21, 2014 6:37:55 GMT -6
As far as playing it as written thought I was pretty close except cutting it a little short on second set of down, practicing with the practice track sounded like I was close. I will have to give it another go. I really appreciate all the feedback. Phil thanks for the link I didn't realize there was supplements.
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Post by Phil on Jun 21, 2014 6:43:11 GMT -6
As far as playing it as written thought I was pretty close except cutting it a little short on second set of down, practicing with the practice track sounded like I was close. I will have to give it another go. I really appreciate all the feedback. Phil thanks for the link I didn't realize there was supplements. Rich, I wasn't aware of the supplements for the 1st few months until someone pointed them out to me. There are some real gems on playing technique in them. A very important one IMO is the one about developing a 'light' touch with your fretting hand. It's tough to do and even tougher to remember to do it. Phil
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Post by jack1982 on Jun 21, 2014 6:57:55 GMT -6
As far as playing it as written thought I was pretty close except cutting it a little short on second set of down, practicing with the practice track sounded like I was close. I will have to give it another go. I really appreciate all the feedback. Phil thanks for the link I didn't realize there was supplements. Yeah listening to it again you are playing the rests between the chords just fine - please disregard my previous comments Hey it's Saturday morning which comes right after Friday night, my brain is only semi-functional at the moment LOL.
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Post by Phil on Jun 21, 2014 7:54:17 GMT -6
Yeah listening to it again you are playing the rests between the chords just fine - please disregard my previous comments Hey it's Saturday morning which comes right after Friday night, my brain is only semi-functional at the moment LOL. Unless my old ears are totally hosed up it sounds like he's playing 3, 8th note down strokes and an 8th rest instead of 1, 4th note strum and one 8th note strum and an 8th rest. Beats 2 and 3 and 4 and 1 andcunningr - Da Da Da (rest), Da Da Da (rest) BYCU - Dah Da (rest), Dah Da (rest)
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Post by cunningr on Jun 21, 2014 9:04:18 GMT -6
Phil your right in the book it's just like you show and that's how I thought I played it, but when you listen to the practice track it sounds like da da da rest da da da. I was playing it both ways so I might have did the triple version and didn't realize it.
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Post by jack1982 on Jun 21, 2014 11:08:07 GMT -6
Yeah listening to it again you are playing the rests between the chords just fine - please disregard my previous comments Hey it's Saturday morning which comes right after Friday night, my brain is only semi-functional at the moment LOL. Unless my old ears are totally hosed up it sounds like he's playing 3, 8th note down strokes and an 8th rest instead of 1, 4th note strum and one 8th note strum and an 8th rest. Beats 2 and 3 and 4 and 1 andcunningr - Da Da Da (rest), Da Da Da (rest) BYCU - Dah Da (rest), Dah Da (rest) Yeah he stuck an extra chord strum in there, but I just meant the rests are still there and in the right place.
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Post by cunningr on Jun 21, 2014 11:29:57 GMT -6
Ah my bad thought I was playing the book version, anyway been practicing it some more. I have moved on to lesson 3 now. I go back over each lesson every time in practice. Thanks for the comments this is about the most help we can provide without an instructor.
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Post by jack1982 on Jun 21, 2014 15:34:11 GMT -6
Don't add extra chord strums - it gets us old guys all confused and we're pretty confused to start with
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