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Post by jack1982 on May 16, 2014 16:39:43 GMT -6
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Post by Phil on May 16, 2014 22:16:04 GMT -6
Very well played done, Jack, and love the tone you got. Yeah, I could probably nit-pick and find some faults, but since your version better than mine I won't.  Keep posting those recordings, if we could get more people involved this could become a very interesting part of this forum. There's nothing more motivating than hearing someone else play the same tune better than you think you played it. It slaps you back into reality. I'm going to have a listen to your "Delta Mood" now. Phil |
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Post by joachim on May 17, 2014 2:28:18 GMT -6
Great job on that one, Jack!
I agree that the some bends sound a little off, but who am I too point fingers about bending... The timing is impeccable, and with more bends under your belt, this would be CD quality; I doubt my recording will be as good, when I get to it.
Are you using vibrato on some of the bends? It sounds that way - I've been wondering when BYCY would introduce vibrato.
The forum has certainly taken an interesting turn lately, with many motivating and involved guitarists sharing experiences... Keep it coming!
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Post by TommyD on May 17, 2014 6:05:37 GMT -6
That was great! I don't think you have "a long ways to go" at all. I'm with tbone, your recording makes me want to go back and work on Hard Edge Blues again. Thanks for sharing your recording.
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Post by bluesbruce on May 17, 2014 6:08:58 GMT -6
Another one nicely done, Jack. The bends are showing improvement! The tone contrasts sharply with your Delta Mood. Care to share how you're recording these?
Bruce
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Post by jack1982 on May 17, 2014 6:25:01 GMT -6
Thanks so much guys! Glad to hear the timing is good, I was kind of wondering about that. The bends in this one are a challenge because it's fairly fast. It's like you've got to nail them instantly and then go on to the next thing, and I still need some a lot of work in that area. It requires a lot of strength too - I copy-and-pasted the backing track 5 times in a row in Audacity and then I'd play along with it (trying to forget I had the record button pressed). By the tenth time through my left hand was really tired. But yesterday when I was practicing it I wasn't getting tired, so maybe I'm building up a little strength. As far as vibrato I have a habit of putting that on everything  Too much of it in fact, I tend to put it on notes where it doesn't really belong and then have to consciously stop doing that because it makes stuff sound weird. I don't know if the subject of vibrato is really introduced in the book, I think you just have to start adding it yourself as you see fit. I'm glad you guys like having more recordings on the site, I'll certainly keep posting more. As Phil said, it's very motivating! |
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Post by jack1982 on May 17, 2014 6:44:21 GMT -6
Another one nicely done, Jack. The bends are showing improvement! The tone contrasts sharply with your Delta Mood. Care to share how you're recording these? Bruce Thanks Bruce! I can't thank you guys enough for pointing out my bending problems in Minor Blues, I wasn't even aware they needed so much work until I got feedback from you guys. I've been concentrating on them a lot but still have a long ways to go. I'm just recording using my Line 6 UX1 into Pod Farm and then Audacity. For Delta Mood I think I used the middle pickup on my Strat, and then in Pod Farm it was a noise gate, Brit J-800 amp with the gain at about 5, 4X12 Brit Celestion T-75 cab, the FX-1 compressor and then the FX-5 standard spring reverb. I fiddle around with the bass/mid/treble on the amp to try and get it sounding good. For Hard Edge Blues it was the neck pickup on the Strat, noise gate, Blackface Lux amp with the drive at about 9, then the console pre-amp where I did some EQ'ing, then a sine chorus FX-2 and digital delay FX-3, then the standard spring reverb FX-4. I guess I usually start with one of the Pod Farm presets that I like some aspect of, and then just start fiddling with stuff, usually trying different amps, adding a pre-amp, getting it EQ'd right etc. |
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Post by bluesbruce on May 17, 2014 10:28:39 GMT -6
Jack, I'm liking the tones you're getting from Pod Farm! Are you recording the "wet" signal, or are you recording "dry" and then adding effects? You can record BOTH at the same time with the Pod Farm. It's a really neat trick - so you get a good take, but decide you don't like something about the tone you used. You can use the dry track and apply different effects to it. This is also a great way to just listen to different effects. To do this, select "dual" tone in Pod Farm, then go to the mixer and select "dry tone" for one of the outputs. Then set up audacity to record both outputs at the same time. Then when you play back, mute one or the other. Hope that makes sense - or maybe you're already doing this. It took me a while to catch on to this, but I pretty much always record this way now.
Bruce
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Post by jack1982 on May 17, 2014 17:03:20 GMT -6
Thanks Bruce, I'll have to read up on how to record both wet and dry at the same time in Audacity. I've just been using the effects in Pod Farm but it would be pretty nice to be able to fiddle with that stuff afterwards and not be stuck with it the way it is. Thanks for the tip!
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Post by bluesbruce on May 18, 2014 7:09:44 GMT -6
Jack, here's a Line 6 video on using Pod Farm as a plug in. They are showing this using Reaper, but you should be able to do the same thing with Audacity.
Like I said, it took me a long time to realize I could do this with my Line 6 unit. IMO, this is very well worth learning to do. This is how you can go back and apply effects "on the fly" to a dry track you've recorded. It should be pretty simple to set up Pod Farm to play a "wet" tone on output 1-2, and a "dry" tone on output 3-4. Then you've just got to set up two tracks to record in Audacity at the same time, and tell one of them to record outputs 1&2, and the other to record outputs 3&4. Hope you can get this to work - I've found it to be an invaluable trick.
Bruce
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Post by jack1982 on May 19, 2014 5:36:53 GMT -6
I was reading up on that in Audacity and I'm not sure if you can record two stereo tracks at once; it seems like whatever programs it uses to manage audio can only handle one stereo track at a time. Of course I may just need to read up on it some more, I'm really new to all this stuff. I can record a clean track and then go and add the amp sim, effects etc afterwards, which is really cool, but it doesn't do it in real time like with Reaper; you have to pick a sound in Pod Farm and then it will apply it to the whole track. But again maybe I just haven't figured out how to do it yet. I have Reaper downloaded and have used it a little bit, but having only started recording on PC a couple weeks ago, I only know about 10% of what Audacity can do and kind of want to get more familiar with that before I start learning a second system I think for now I'll just try recording a dry signal and adding reverb and other effects afterwards and see how that goes. Then get into Reaper and the other stuff a little later. |
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Post by jack1982 on May 24, 2014 4:44:30 GMT -6
Jack, I'm liking the tones you're getting from Pod Farm! Are you recording the "wet" signal, or are you recording "dry" and then adding effects? You can record BOTH at the same time with the Pod Farm. It's a really neat trick - so you get a good take, but decide you don't like something about the tone you used. You can use the dry track and apply different effects to it. This is also a great way to just listen to different effects. To do this, select "dual" tone in Pod Farm, then go to the mixer and select "dry tone" for one of the outputs. Then set up audacity to record both outputs at the same time. Then when you play back, mute one or the other. Hope that makes sense - or maybe you're already doing this. It took me a while to catch on to this, but I pretty much always record this way now. Bruce I started using Reaper and finally figured out how to record both tracks at once (I had to change the input settings to ASIO or whatever and set it to input 4 tracks at once). Before that I was recording two tracks but they were both the same - I couldn't figure out why the distortion sounded so bad when I'd add it afterwards - probably because I was adding an amp sim on top of the amp sim LOL. But yeah, that's a fantastic tool for tone shaping, and listening to the effects being applied in real time is awesome. I never really noticed the difference in which cab I was using until I started going through them when listening to the playback. And some of those VST plugins for equalization are tremendously useful as well, and I've only just begun to fool around with that stuff. Thanks so much for the tip Bruce! |
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Post by bluesbruce on May 24, 2014 7:15:19 GMT -6
You're welcome, Jack. I think I'd had my UX2 for two years before I figured this out, and it was like "WOW" - it was like having a whole new roomful of toys to play with! Yeah distorting an already distorted track will sound terrible, for sure. Glad to help out.
Bruce
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