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Post by Marc on Nov 27, 2020 3:36:20 GMT -6
First happy late Thanksgiving for you in the states, and happy Friday for the rest of you. I came across some software, that will let you split a mp3 into several audio tracks and thought I would share it. It is pretty geeky so it might not be for everyone. If you're on Linux or mac the process is probably easier. Just see the github link. Recently I was on another platform and someone asked about removing guitar from a track and they had suggested a website called ezstems.com/. After about 4 hours I was still waiting. This is not going to work for me. I clicked around the site and found but I found a different link with an explanation and video on how to install the software locally. Text walkthough - ezstems.com/installing-spleeter-windows/ Video walkthough - Github page - github.com/deezer/spleeterI’ve been messing with it and I have to say it works pretty well. I found that it will not split the lead guitar and rhythm guitar (at least on a bycu track). I found it really shined on splitting bass, guitar, vocals and drums. |
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Post by bluesbruce on Nov 28, 2020 9:48:44 GMT -6
Geeky yes, but a really cool idea! Makes sense that it would have difficulty splitting multiple guitar parts - just like it would not be able to split them if there were two drummers or two bassists playing. It's been one of my pet peeves for years that very commonly guitar instruction books do not include backing tracks without the guitar parts (this is true of the BYCU series, as well, for the most part). Hal Leonard has remedied this pretty well with their new online player with their more recent releases allowing you to play the guitar or to turn it off (also allowing slowing tempo without changing pitch, looping sections, and adjusting pitch if desired). A lot of their older productions now sold with online audio still do not include all these features.
This would also probably be really helpful in trying to transcribe parts, as you could get other instruments "out of the way", allowing you to more clearly hear the part you're trying to hear.
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Post by cunningr on Dec 1, 2020 14:38:02 GMT -6
I did this manually one time by eq ing the guitar freq then inverting the wave on another track which canceled the other signal. Didn't cut it completely but when i recorded my track a bump in the level buried the original. Was a royal pain, so software for the task is awsome.
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Post by grampalerxst on Dec 1, 2020 15:42:08 GMT -6
This looks pretty cool, would be nice though if they just had a downloadable executable rather than source code, which was all I saw. I'm not a software person. Transcribe! has some limited ability to isolate, but I haven't really tried it out. Surprised also that no one has a DAW plugin to do this.
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Post by jack1982 on Dec 2, 2020 7:07:11 GMT -6
Thanks for posting that Mark, I haven't got a chance to use it yet but I love doing cover songs and being able to make backing tracks for some of the more obscure songs I tend to be interested in would be pretty darned awesome.
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Post by Phil on Dec 2, 2020 8:59:40 GMT -6
This looks pretty cool, would be nice though if they just had a downloadable executable rather than source code, which was all I saw. I'm not a software person. Transcribe! has some limited ability to isolate, but I haven't really tried it out. Surprised also that no one has a DAW plugin to do this. Now that you've used Transcribe for a while now could you tell me what it can do versus a typical DAW? I've been curious about this since I first heard about it. Maybe a run down of the features and what you like about it. |
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Post by Marc on Dec 2, 2020 13:51:06 GMT -6
This looks pretty cool, would be nice though if they just had a downloadable executable rather than source code, which was all I saw. I'm not a software person. Transcribe! has some limited ability to isolate, but I haven't really tried it out. Surprised also that no one has a DAW plugin to do this. Now that you've used Transcribe for a while now could you tell me what it can do versus a typical DAW? I've been curious about this since I first heard about it. Maybe a run down of the features and what you like about it. What is this transcribe?
I don't know anything about windows programming or vst development otherwise I might make an attempt at porting this to an easier install method. It looks like a bunch of DJ software has built it into their apps.
jack1982 I was thinking about you when I came across it.
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Post by grampalerxst on Dec 3, 2020 6:49:12 GMT -6
Now that you've used Transcribe for a while now could you tell me what it can do versus a typical DAW? I've been curious about this since I first heard about it. Maybe a run down of the features and what you like about it. What is this transcribe?
I don't know anything about windows programming or vst development otherwise I might make an attempt at porting this to an easier install method. It looks like a bunch of DJ software has built it into their apps.
jack1982 I was thinking about you when I came across it.
Marc, it's a small software program intended to be an aid in transcribing music off recordings. The link below talks about all the features. I use it mostly as a practice/learning aid. The audio slow down quality is really good. I often find even "slow" demonstrations often go by too fast for me to absorb.
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Post by grampalerxst on Dec 3, 2020 7:50:54 GMT -6
This looks pretty cool, would be nice though if they just had a downloadable executable rather than source code, which was all I saw. I'm not a software person. Transcribe! has some limited ability to isolate, but I haven't really tried it out. Surprised also that no one has a DAW plugin to do this. Now that you've used Transcribe for a while now could you tell me what it can do versus a typical DAW? I've been curious about this since I first heard about it. Maybe a run down of the features and what you like about it. Well it's not a DAW or even close. No special technology. The main things I use are the playback speed/pitch shifting features which allow me to "play along" much more readily. I could do everything I do with Transcribe! in Cakewalk (my main DAW these days). But it would require wrestling the DAW (a much more complicated program) and I'd probably need to wrestle Melodyne or some other non-trivial plugin to handle the pitch/speed transformations. Iow, a fairly sizable enterprise for each occurrence. At least with my DAW, others may have this functionality more readily available.
Some context is maybe needed for my use of "sizable". I couldn't tell you the last time I touched a guitar in a given day but didn't use Transcribe! for at least part of it. This morning as a for-instance, I warmed up by looping through two choruses of the current BLYCU backing track and playing each of the two 2-bar "solos" I've recorded for the current section a handful of times apiece. Then I worked on a couple of the licks by playing along with the respective demos at various speeds. Since what I'm working on now is due Sunday I'm pretty far along in the process so it was a relatively "light" Transcribe! day. So at minimum it is multiple uses and multiple adjustments every time I sit down, and typically 45min-1hr of time available. Transcribe! is extremely efficient in that regard--minimum time lost to "playing the computer" rather than playing the guitar, with better quality/resolution than what one can do with analogous Youtube features, for example.
Beyond the day-to-day for me I'm hoping there's a more significant longer-term benefit. I really suck at learning by ear. For a long time I was convinced I simply could not. But now I know that to not be strictly true. If I slow stuff down enough I can work it out. A hopefully enriching wrinkle to the BLYCU challenge is I'm making it a mostly by ear exercise. For the current section I've not spent more than a minute or two looking at the written notation of any of the examples. And not at all with guitar-in-hand. I keep the book in a different room. I use the book to figure out where in the chorus the lick goes, and a general sense of where it lays on the neck. From there it is loading the demo in transcribe, slowing it down to learn the notes and articulation, then a mad dash to try to work it up to speed to meet Bruce's merciless deadlines (  ). Maybe if I take that sort of approach long enough my by-ear skills will get more efficient at normal tempos. Even if not, I at least know that I have a method to get the job done that is easy enough to implement that the up front cost of the implementation isn't a deterrent.
I gave a link to the longer description from the developers web site in a response to Marc which should be above.
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Post by Phil on Dec 3, 2020 8:57:37 GMT -6
Now that you've used Transcribe for a while now could you tell me what it can do versus a typical DAW? I've been curious about this since I first heard about it. Maybe a run down of the features and what you like about it. Well it's not a DAW or even close. No special technology. The main things I use are the playback speed/pitch shifting features which allow me to "play along" much more readily. I could do everything I do with Transcribe! in Cakewalk (my main DAW these days). But it would require wrestling the DAW (a much more complicated program) and I'd probably need to wrestle Melodyne or some other non-trivial plugin to handle the pitch/speed transformations. Iow, a fairly sizable enterprise for each occurrence. At least with my DAW, others may have this functionality more readily available.
Some context is maybe needed for my use of "sizable". I couldn't tell you the last time I touched a guitar in a given day but didn't use Transcribe! for at least part of it. This morning as a for-instance, I warmed up by looping through two choruses of the current BLYCU backing track and playing each of the two 2-bar "solos" I've recorded for the current section a handful of times apiece. Then I worked on a couple of the licks by playing along with the respective demos at various speeds. Since what I'm working on now is due Sunday I'm pretty far along in the process so it was a relatively "light" Transcribe! day. So at minimum it is multiple uses and multiple adjustments every time I sit down, and typically 45min-1hr of time available. Transcribe! is extremely efficient in that regard--minimum time lost to "playing the computer" rather than playing the guitar, with better quality/resolution than what one can do with analogous Youtube features, for example.
Beyond the day-to-day for me I'm hoping there's a more significant longer-term benefit. I really suck at learning by ear. For a long time I was convinced I simply could not. But now I know that to not be strictly true. If I slow stuff down enough I can work it out. A hopefully enriching wrinkle to the BLYCU challenge is I'm making it a mostly by ear exercise. For the current section I've not spent more than a minute or two looking at the written notation of any of the examples. And not at all with guitar-in-hand. I keep the book in a different room. I use the book to figure out where in the chorus the lick goes, and a general sense of where it lays on the neck. From there it is loading the demo in transcribe, slowing it down to learn the notes and articulation, then a mad dash to try to work it up to speed to meet Bruce's merciless deadlines ( ). Maybe if I take that sort of approach long enough my by-ear skills will get more efficient at normal tempos. Even if not, I at least know that I have a method to get the job done that is easy enough to implement that the up front cost of the implementation isn't a deterrent.
I gave a link to the longer description from the developers web site in a response to Marc which should be above.
Thanks, I'll check out the trial version. I can easily slow down a recording in Reaper without changing pitch (just change the tempo) and loop it, but this looks like it has some other interesting features. |
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Post by grampalerxst on Dec 4, 2020 6:11:43 GMT -6
Thanks, I'll check out the trial version. I can easily slow down a recording in Reaper without changing pitch (just change the tempo) and loop it, but this looks like it has some other interesting features. I meant to mention there was a free trial. It'll really come down to whatever fits one's workflow. For the way I like to do things and the degree/frequency with which I count on the core features, it's just a better solution. If I'd only want to do the kinds of things it does once a month, or even once a week maybe, I'd probably have kept my money and slugged it out in a DAW. |
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Post by bluesbruce on Dec 4, 2020 7:16:52 GMT -6
I used to use Amazing Slow Downer in a similar fashion, but when they came out with an updated 32 bit version and said I'd have to buy the program all over again, it pissed me off and I just deleted it. I've sort of been looking at Transcribe since then, but can pretty much do what I want in my DAW (Logic), but I agree with grampa - it was just a bit simpler using a dedicated program designed for slowing audio. I probably aught to download the trial of Transcribe, too, and check it out. I'm kind of intrigued with some of the pitch and chord recognition features, which are not present in Logic.
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). Maybe if I take that sort of approach long enough my by-ear skills will get more efficient at normal tempos. Even if not, I at least know that I have a method to get the job done that is easy enough to implement that the up front cost of the implementation isn't a deterrent.