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Post by jack1982 on Aug 4, 2019 11:48:41 GMT -6
I had a decent week hours-wise, practiced most every day. Don't seem to be making much progress though lol. Still working on "Landslide" by Fleetwood Mac. As I mentioned before, the verse is easy enough but the chorus, at least with the Songster tab I'm using, is fairly complex and not terribly easy to get up to speed on a 12 string. I watched a Marty Schwartz video and he played the chorus in a way that was as simple as the verse, but I really like all the beautiful stuff going on in the Songster tab. What's been slowing me down lately is that, well here's some tab of the verse: My playing of that just didn't seem to "fit" with Stevie's singing until I realized that (I think) you really emphasize that 4th note, the last of the first quadruplet, and then de-emphasize the next note, the first of the second quadruplet (then do the same with the next pair of quadruplets), which creates a a very subtle rhythmic shift, a sort of "ebb-and-flow" throughout the song. That's easy enough with a simple Travis picking pattern like that, but when you get to the chorus where you need to maintain that ebb-and-flow but you can't really use Travis picking because you've got a couple notes in a row on the same string etc., well that keeps me well below full tempo Ah anyway, I suppose the best way to proceed would be to practice more I should probably analyze the tab more thoroughly (go back to 50% tempo) and see if I can somehow incorporate Travis picking even through the more complex portions, maybe by replacing some stuff with hammer-ons or pulloffs, or just replacing a note or two with different ones. Apparently there's not going to be a "challenge" this month at that other site, so I guess I can concentrate fully on this. I'm sure watching Phil's video this week will get me all fired up to work harder
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Post by Phil on Aug 4, 2019 13:20:21 GMT -6
Jack,
Keep watching those old videos. That's all I've got right now. Have you checked out this live version with just Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham? Nice close ups of his picking hand. Buckingham is a much better guitarist than he's given credit for. I don't have much to report. Still working with chords and progressions on Jazz standards. I did learn a new melody last week. I'm kind of obsessed with chords and voice leading at the moment.
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Post by cunningr on Aug 4, 2019 13:20:34 GMT -6
Well not much to report here, did get a couple of hours in. Start class Thursday, so will have to get out of my lazy way. Had my attention diverted some planning on taking kite-boarding lessons so been watching preclass videos to try to prepare and not kill myself.
Anyone know anything about banjos, i need recommendation on a decent priced starter for my son.
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Post by joachim on Aug 4, 2019 14:29:03 GMT -6
I've been on vacation, and now away for a week on work, so I haven't played lately. I am starting to suffer from withdrawal...
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Post by grampalerxst on Aug 4, 2019 14:33:11 GMT -6
Similar week to the last many (at least I'm consistent). Mostly working that Electric Gypsy intro (must be getting close to a year I've been messing with it) and the 1- and 2-bar phrases from the Wyatt book.
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 4, 2019 19:48:30 GMT -6
Kind of late to check in, been at the lake all weekend. I've got an acoustic up there, so I do get to play some. Still been playing mostly rock, though seem to have kind of laid Total Rock Guitar aside for now. Also seem to have become kind of fixated on some scale and arpeggio exercises in one of the ancient books I have (called "Scales Over Chords"). It's funny that I remember starting this book (as I have so many...), but not really having the first idea what they were talking about with all these different scales forms, chords derived from the scales, and arpeggios of these chords from the scale forms, and (hopefully) how they all relate and how to use them... This stuff was all so over my head when I first looked at this book (probably over 10 years ago). Now it actually makes sense to me, and I look at it and think "wow - I need to learn all this stuff". I guess I've learned something from banging away at this stuff long enough. LOL.
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Post by Phil on Aug 4, 2019 20:39:52 GMT -6
Kind of late to check in, been at the lake all weekend. I've got an acoustic up there, so I do get to play some. Still been playing mostly rock, though seem to have kind of laid Total Rock Guitar aside for now. Also seem to have become kind of fixated on some scale and arpeggio exercises in one of the ancient books I have (called "Scales Over Chords"). It's funny that I remember starting this book (as I have so many...), but not really having the first idea what they were talking about with all these different scales forms, chords derived from the scales, and arpeggios of these chords from the scale forms, and (hopefully) how they all relate and how to use them... This stuff was all so over my head when I first looked at this book (probably over 10 years ago). Now it actually makes sense to me, and I look at it and think "wow - I need to learn all this stuff". I guess I've learned something from banging away at this stuff long enough. LOL. I'm starting to have a similar experience. I've been looking thru some old stuff that now suddenly makes sense, but was way over my head a couple of years ago. I guess that means we're making some kind of progress at least from the application of theory side of things. I still remember when you had to set me straight on what an interval of a 3rd is.
Just today I was watching a Mimi Fox video where she was demonstrating playing an Fmaj7 arpeggio over a G7 chord. I paused the video and thought about it for a minute. I immediately realized that an Fmaj7 arpeggio is made up the same notes as the 7th, 9th, 11th, and 13th of a G7. Just a short time ago I wouldn't have been able to figure this out on my own. The more I learn about chords the I more I see how they are related. I'm fascinated by this stuff. Now, if I could just make some progress in actually playing the guitar.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 5, 2019 5:10:36 GMT -6
Jack,
Keep watching those old videos. That's all I've got right now. Have you checked out this live version with just Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham? Nice close ups of his picking hand. Buckingham is a much better guitarist than he's given credit for. I don't have much to report. Still working with chords and progressions on Jazz standards. I did learn a new melody last week. I'm kind of obsessed with chords and voice leading at the moment. Yeah, that's just a gorgeous version of that song. He adds a whole bunch of stuff in there that isn't in the album version and it just fills in the arrangement so nicely. Also love the way Stevie is kind of conducting him at the end of the guitar solo portion I still haven't started on the solo - on the album version it almost sounds to me like it might be on lap steel or something? That's gonna require some creative fakery to pull it off on electric guitar. Well I guess I'm making some progress - yesterday I was playing it at 93% tempo and it wasn't much more sloppy than when I used to play it at 50% tempo lol.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 6, 2019 6:58:01 GMT -6
Hey Jack, that's a great song and well wort the effort learning - good luck with it! I thought maybe you'd like to listen to this version of the Smashing Pumpkins: I always loved this SP record, and that's where I first heard that song (I thought forever it was a SP original). Maybe starting out with that solo forst helps to get your feet on the ground before running, and it's also good ear training... Enjoy! Man that's a beautiful song no matter who plays it I've never heard that version before, really nice. I'm just looking over the tab for the Fleetwood Mac solo and it's definitely gonna present some challenges, lots (and lots) of bending up one note while playing others - and I'm the worst bender in the world to start with lol. Maybe I should give the Smashing Pumpkins solo a try.
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