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Post by Phil on Apr 25, 2015 17:05:10 GMT -6
I haven't uploaded anything in so long that I had trouble finding my progress log. Here's something a little different from me. This is study #3 from Jazzin' the Blues. I'm playing lead only over the backing track that came with the book. I suppose I should post this in the Jazz section, but I'm not sure anybody goes there anymore.  As always, comments and kind, gentle criticism are welcome.  Blues for Charlie |
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Post by jack1982 on Apr 25, 2015 18:26:25 GMT -6
Sounds beautiful Phil, really nice job. I think you've got the swing feel going good; I'm listening to your version and John's version and John may have 3/10ths of 1% more swing, and dammit I'm gonna point that out to you  Very cleanly played, timing's great, have a beer you've earned it  |
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Post by wannaplayblues on Apr 26, 2015 0:54:26 GMT -6
nice! I'm not Jazz Cat, but that was cool!
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Post by joachim on Apr 26, 2015 2:14:03 GMT -6
Really nice, Phil, both playing and tone. Some passages in there reminded me of some of the T-Bone Walker playalong songs.
It's great to hear songs for JtB - I have that also, but haven't decided which book to start on after I wrap up BRYCU.
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Post by Phil on Apr 26, 2015 8:22:43 GMT -6
Thanks for all your positive comments.
Phil
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Post by Phil on Apr 26, 2015 8:43:50 GMT -6
Sounds beautiful Phil, really nice job. I think you've got the swing feel going good; I'm listening to your version and John's version and John may have 3/10ths of 1% more swing, and dammit I'm gonna point that out to you Very cleanly played, timing's great, have a beer you've earned it This is going to sound ridiculous, but it just occurred to me that I have never compared my final recordings with John's originals. I think it's because by time I get a good recording I haven't listened to the original in a long time, and I actually forget about it. I'm constantly trying to improve on what I played or recorded previously. Here's how I've been doing these studies: 1). I play along with the original full version until I've got it down pretty well even if it's at a slow speed. 2). I start playing along with a backing track (for MBYCU that's usually provided by you. ) until I get it up to speed and have it memorized. 3). I record it. This typically requires approximately 47,000 takes which I count as further practice. By this time I haven't heard the original for several weeks. For some strange reason I never thought of comparing the final recording to the original. After reading your comment I compared my version of "Blues for Charlie" to the original and I can hear several things I don't like about mine. Even though this a technically simple piece, I can hear that John's playing is crystal clear on those T-Bone Walker style slides while mine are somewhat muted and don't ring out. There are a couple of other things that I noticed regarding note duration, accents and things like that. The bottom line is that this is something I should be doing. I get overly enthusiastic when I finally get a decent recording and all I want to do is upload it and move on. I need to slow down and do this kind of comparison to focus on the nuances of playing even technically simple stuff. |
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Post by bluesbruce on Apr 26, 2015 10:34:05 GMT -6
Phil,
Glad to hear you post something again - thought maybe you'd fallen off the edge of the Earth (like I have). I think it sounds good, but I think the elusive "swing" quality that Jack is talking about is what I would call "getting in the pocket". In jazz, there seems to be this very subtle playing just behind the beat. You mention going back and comparing to JG's recording. I bet if you put both your recording and his in your DAW and line them up and look at the sound waves, you'd see that your lead part hits just ever so slightly ahead of his. I think this is one of those "feel" things that just comes with listening to and playing jazz. I'm glad to hear someone play some from JTB - it might inspire me to get back to it...
Bruce
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Post by jack1982 on Apr 26, 2015 12:50:28 GMT -6
Phil, yeah I'll usually play along with John on the CD at least a few times every day, just to make sure I'm not missing (too many of) the subtleties. I noticed with some of the more rockin' songs towards the end of BYCU, when I didn't play along with the CD for a while, my timing would get more and more relaxed - I'd listen to John's version and it was full of energy, then I'd listen to mine and it wasn't. So that kind of got me into the habit of always double-checking even after I know the song pretty well.
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As always, comments and kind, gentle criticism are welcome. 
