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Post by jack1982 on Aug 12, 2015 11:09:15 GMT -6
Well here's my version - I came up with a couple choruses of my own. Hopefully you'll enjoy them  |
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Post by cunningr on Aug 12, 2015 12:24:55 GMT -6
Damn Jack I am ashamed to post my standard version now, that was freaking awesome interpretation  . I tried and tried to get a chorus in using some slide licks but never could get a complete clean chorus I liked. Anyway great job. rich |
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Post by joachim on Aug 12, 2015 14:09:05 GMT -6
Simply awesome, Jack! I agree with T-Bone, definitely one of the coolest posts so far on the forum!
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Post by cunningr on Aug 12, 2015 15:50:35 GMT -6
 I vote that Jack has to post after everyone else, since he clearly set the bar to high for some of us to reach. I love the vibrato, and the bass playing just brought a bigger bottom.
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Post by Phil on Aug 12, 2015 17:43:17 GMT -6
OK, Jack, how the f*ck is anybody else going to feel comfortable posting a recording after watching that? I am truly humbled. I'm going to try and record my version before the deadline, but I know I'll just be embarrassed. Not only is your playing impressive, but the quality of the recording is also outstanding. I agree with T-Bone that this is a great example of what we're all striving for - using what we've learned. I also agree with Rich that you should be prohibited from posting 1st from here on. |
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 12, 2015 18:18:54 GMT -6
Thanks so much guys, I'm just flattered beyond words by all your compliments! This song has been my main project for about a week an a half now so I guess I spent quite a bit of time on it. Glad you all liked it! And I promise not to hand in my homework early from now on lol |
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 12, 2015 19:11:39 GMT -6
Man, Jack, I'm kinda speechless after that. Just like everyone else, I'm kind of embarrassed to contemplate posting the version I've been working on. I took kind of a whole different approach - trying to keep the simple, basic delta kind of bare-bones thing going. It'll be interesting to see what everyone else does with this tune. Nice job and a great listen, Jack. That's definitely using your blues!
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Post by chrisnc on Aug 12, 2015 19:36:43 GMT -6
Absolutely fantastic! I think it's cool to see how everyone takes a basic lesson progression and adds to it or tweaks it into something more. Definitely a motivator for folks like me, just starting the course with aspirations of being able play and write like that one day. And great fun to watch (over and over)!
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Post by blackcountrymick on Aug 13, 2015 3:42:39 GMT -6
Very interesting Jack, as a MBYCU graduate the quality of playing is a given , but the structure and development of your own parts just blows me away, there is obviously a strong underpinning of improvisation and melodic theory here that demonstrates how hard you have been working on this element of your playing. I think you need to do a video lesson to show us mere mortals an insight into the thought and theory process of doing something like this . Brilliant!!! |
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 13, 2015 6:11:05 GMT -6
Thanks guys, I'm just blown away by everybody's response to that song I was thinking it might be too much of a hodgepodge of blues and rock elements or something lol. I'm really looking forward to hearing everybody else's versions - hey it's not a competition we're all on the same team! It's all about expressing yourself and bringing your own creativity to it Mick, melodic theory? I just go with "Hmmm...that sounded kind of cool"  I used a lot of chord tones in that one, I do a Google search for "[chord name] arpeggio scale". Here's the three I used for this song: E7 arpeggio scale: i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/jackc8/e7-arpeggio-fretboard_zpscx0rklhh.pngA7 arpeggio scale: i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/jackc8/a7-arpeggio-fretboard_zpsaf2g8vuy.pngB7 arpeggio scale: i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww28/jackc8/b7-arpeggio-fretboard_zpsgfnoh2fh.pngI like to use those around the chord changes to highlight them, or just toss in something whenever I can't come up with anything interesting using the blues scale. I'll also record myself (audio and video) improvising over the backing track when it's all fresh and new, that tends to be when I come up with my best stuff. Then I listen back to it and if I hear something I like, I'll watch the video to figure out how I played it. Then if I've got 3 bars written, I'll make a 6 bar loop of the backing tack and just try out different ideas until I happen upon something I like, etc. |
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 13, 2015 14:56:19 GMT -6
Thanks Tbone, I'll have to switch to Bing, is that what the pros use? Oh wait...you mean I should memorize all that stuff? |
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Post by cunningr on Aug 16, 2015 13:06:21 GMT -6
Well here is my meager offering of Delta Mood Review I call it Delta Mood Standard version :-) I learned I need to get better at improv, I had some good ideas but could't get a decent take I would post, so in an effort to participate here is a standard version. soundcloud.com/alabama-blues/delta-mood-review-standardThanks, Rick |
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Post by Phil on Aug 16, 2015 14:17:38 GMT -6
Rich,
Great playing and tone. There's just one small problem - you started a beat too late. However you finished a beat too late also, so even though you were a beat off you stayed in that time throughout. It's noticeable on the chord changes and at the end. Since you started a beat late you are a beat late on the chord changes.
It's in 12/8 time and starts on the "a" of "3 and a" of the pickup measure (or you could count it "3 and, 4 and" with a slight pause on the downbeat). In any case you're starting after the 4th beat of the pickup measure. The E on the 4th string has to land right smack on the 1st beat of the 1st measure when the bass starts.
Other than that your playing is good, clean and precise.
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 16, 2015 20:58:04 GMT -6
Okay, here's my tardy and poorly played rendition. I apologize about the length of it, as well as for the music stand left in the picture. I also raised the camera too high (trying to avoid my shorts and big white legs). Well, and then there's the playing - it's a mess. This was a single take, and i obviously should have done more. I was actually trying to make a video of Chord-On Bleu, but found out I really can't play it very well yet. I think I'm slippin' into some really bad practice habits - like never playing along with a backing track or even the original recording. Oh well, that's enough excuses about it -
Please, be gentle with me - like I said, I think there's a lot of valuable lessons in making this video (things not to do).
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 17, 2015 6:19:04 GMT -6
Bruce, I think this wasn't half as bad as you might think. In terms of style, I think your approach actually was the most appropriate, and also the way JohnG sugested to work your way through the tune by playing the main motif and then incorparating small licks and melodic ideas. I'd say that's what you did. I also like it that you posted a 1st take. Very often this is a major reality check which gets you back to some earnest woodshedding! Greetings, T. Tbone, Thanks for listening. Yeah, it was definitely "a major reality check". I think about trying to play "live", where you don't get eight takes and pick the best one. It's really daunting. I thought the "style" fit well with the feel of Delta Mood. Another thing it made me realize, is that we all probably need to play some pieces that are longer than one or two choruses. It's tough to keep going and stay locked in - that one was five twelve bar choruses. Well, it's all good for furthering my music playing, even if it's not a well done or well-played production. Bruce |
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 17, 2015 10:13:59 GMT -6
Rich - very cleanly played and you certainly stayed in time with the rhythm throughout, but as Phil was saying you started in the wrong place which kind of caused all the rhythmic accents in the backing track to be offset from what you were playing, giving it a bit of a sing-song quality. Just fix that one little thing and I think you'd have it nailed! Bruce, good to see you back! I like what you did with that, adding some of your own parts while keeping the basic structure of the song. Fit the mood and the feel of it really well. You just need to get back to your regular daily practice routine is all - I find a large deadbolt on the practice room door and a "do not disturb" sign works well |
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Post by Phil on Aug 17, 2015 12:19:41 GMT -6
Bruce, It's good to see you're back in the saddle. Squeeze in some practice time however you can. I wouldn't have the cojones to post a 1st take of anything. So, I'm impressed that you were able to do this. I agree that playing 4 or 5 choruses is quite different than playing 1 or 2. I think my extended version of Jumpin' Blues went for 5 choruses and it seemed like an eternity when I was playing it. |
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Post by Phil on Aug 17, 2015 12:23:09 GMT -6
Rich, sorry, I haven't seen your post - i was kind of overshadowed by Bruce's video box screenshot! I agree with Phil et al., it's very cleanly played, but played off the wrong beat - I bet performance anxiety made you do it...just give it a go again! I've got to admit that I just found out myself that a very clever thing to do is to work your way through a tune phrase by phrase, closely listening to what the rhythm section is doing... maybe this helps you, too. I know it takes you forever, but this way you'll bring it home... now I only wish I'd practice what I preach! I don't know about everybody else, but concentrating on what I'm playing and listening to the rhythm section is very difficult. It's absolutely necessary, but very hard to do. You really have to get comfortable with what you're playing first. |
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Post by cunningr on Aug 17, 2015 14:49:39 GMT -6
Thanks guys, I need to check the file I might have bumped it up when I was trying to copy it to a new file so I could work on an improv piece. And I do exactly like you I go section by section working my way through the song slowly adding bits at a time. I really on did a couple of quick takes after practing it again I did notice how much easier it was to play through.
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 17, 2015 17:03:59 GMT -6
Rich, I listened to your post last night, but in my haste to post, didn't comment on it. My thought on listening to it was "something is funny about the timing". I'm glad Phil and everybody else figured it out so I don't have to try to figure it out. The good news is that your internal timing seemed spot on - it just wasn't in sync with the external timing of the backing track. You can probably "fix" this in your DAW program, but it would be much better practice to actually play it again, starting on the correct beat. I can tell you after trying to record Chord-On Bleu that I've got to get more practice playing with a backing track to force me to keep to the timing - 'cause not only do we have to learn the notes, but we also gotta learn the rhythm.
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. I tried and tried to get a chorus in using some slide licks but never could get a complete clean chorus I liked. Anyway great job.
I vote that Jack has to post after everyone else, since he clearly set the bar to high for some of us to reach. 
I used a lot of chord tones in that one, I do a Google search for "[chord name] arpeggio scale". Here's the three I used for this song: