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Post by bluesbruce on May 14, 2014 6:26:17 GMT -6
Okay, here's the second lesson from chapter 5, "Too, Too Smooth, Too". I think this video turned out pretty nice. Guitars were recorded dry, sound processed using Logic's amp modeling, looks like it's based on a Fender Deluxe. Bruce  |
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Post by joachim on May 14, 2014 6:58:18 GMT -6
Bruce,
it's really good - it has a real authentic jazz sound; the best sound so far, I think. And the video quality is excellent - you should consider writing a walk-through guide on how you do this. It sounds like it's an ideal setup for hobby guitarists. Also, you and your chicken pickin' twin have all the potential to become youtube celebraties...
Thanks for sharing,
Joachim
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Post by bluesbruce on May 14, 2014 7:51:14 GMT -6
Joachim,
Thanks for listening and for your comments. I thought the lead tone was the best one I've got yet. Did this using Apple's amp simulation in Logic rather than the Line 6 Pod Farm. Either way, recording a dry signal and then applying processing afterwards is definitely the way to go. These videos really aren't hard to do. Maybe now that I've got the process down somewhat, I could put together a video showing how I do it. Even I think it looks pretty good, but these are recorded on a cell phone (video) and computer (audio). I'm assuming most everyone has access to these, plus a guitar (of course). The rest of the "studio" is kind of laughably cheap - $13 black tablecloth from Amazon.com, three $7 clamp on work lights from home depot, set of $3 spring clamps to hold up the tablecloth...
I don't think my "band" will go viral, though, but hopefully some blues and jazz blues lovers will find them entertaining and instructional. If we did go viral, we'd never be able to tour, because we're purely a studio band.
Bruce
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Post by bluesbruce on May 14, 2014 8:08:25 GMT -6
Tbone,
Thanks for your comments, too. See the above regarding a "walk thru tutorial". I do have a low music stand in front of me (you can occasionally see the top of it in some of the videos), but I don't know how much that's just a "crutch". Obviously, if you were up to the level of playing a live concert, you'd like to know your part by heart and not have sheet music in front of you. I'm clearly not up to that level of playing.
I like the idea of a "collaboration" with other forum members. I think it would be fun, as well as beneficial to all involved. I wouldn't think it would be too hard to take a video and an audio file and "mix" these. That's pretty much what I do with these split screen videos - but I just record both the parts myself. Of course, nobody would have wanted to be a part of the first few videos I made! But now that I've got the process more refined, it's probably more alluring.
I also don't know much about the feasibility of sending these files - what formats they would need to be (I think iMovie will accept most "common" video file types?), would probably be best to send uncompressed audio for "mix down", how to send these large files (usually too big for e-mail) - so there would be some technical issues to address.
Thanks for the input.
Bruce
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Post by joachim on May 14, 2014 11:09:52 GMT -6
well, I think if you'd dropbox or something like that, it shouldn't be much of a problem to exchange sound- and /or video files. I think it's more of a challenge to meet certain quality standards. As for now, you're the cream of the crop here. "Band in A Dropbox" ? |
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Post by Phil on May 14, 2014 16:34:58 GMT -6
Bruce, You've outdone yourself with the tone on this one. Terrific! Video quality is good, as always. Oh, and your playing is spot on too. No opinion on the ties. Phil |
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Post by bluesbruce on May 14, 2014 17:12:42 GMT -6
Phil,
Thanks for watching and for the positive comments on the tone. I was really hoping the ties would garnish some comments! Yeah, I've gotta have some fun with these, too.
Bruce
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Post by TommyD on May 14, 2014 20:25:54 GMT -6
Great tone, Bruce! I've been trying to dial in a jazz tone, with little success. Additionally, your playing was spot on.
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Post by bluesbruce on May 14, 2014 21:08:46 GMT -6
Thanks, TommyD. Are you trying to do jazz tone on an amp or on modeling software? Some "basic" guidelines are turn the tone on your guitar nearly all the way down ("roll off the highs"), and use the neck pickup. On the amp (or modeling software) use a clean channel, with treble turned way down (0-1), midrange all the way up (9-10), and bass nearly as high (7-9). Adjust to taste. You'll have to play around with this basic formula. I got a much better sound out of Apple's Logic amp modeling than out of Line 6's Pod Farm. I like to think I could do better with the Line 6 software if I played with it some more, but who knows...
Bruce
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Post by joachim on May 15, 2014 2:17:50 GMT -6
Some "basic" guidelines are turn the tone on your guitar nearly all the way down ("roll off the highs"), and use the neck pickup. On the amp (or modeling software) use a clean channel, with treble turned way down (0-1), midrange all the way up (9-10), and bass nearly as high (7-9). Very useful - do you have guidelines for blues as well? I've tried using medium values on basically all parameters for blues, but I'd like to hear how others setup their sound. |
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Post by TommyD on May 15, 2014 4:35:06 GMT -6
Bruce, I'm going through my amp without pedals or modeling of any kind. I already have the amp adjusted as you suggested. Maybe it's the room, maybe it's the way I play, who knows. Maybe it's just my ears. Others would probably think it sounds perfectly fine. But I'm not hearing what you have dialed in. That sounds pretty sweet!
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Post by bluesbruce on May 15, 2014 7:18:14 GMT -6
Joachim,
Blues tones are more "all over the board" than jazz tones tend to be. If there's a particular blues artist or song who's tone you like, google "such and such" guitar tone, and you can usually find some articles or videos offering some guidance as to amp settings, equipment type, etc. "Jazz guitar tones" tend to be fairly "standardized" - jazz players tend to use hollow body or semi hollow body guitars, they tend to use no effects, they tend to use amp settings as above. They even tend to use certain amps - Rolands and Fenders come to mind. Hope that offers some help.
TommyD,
What kind of guitar and what kind of amp are you using? The tone you're getting is probably a "combination" of these. Oh, and as for the way you play, I've heard it said again and again, that tone comes from the fingers - that is, two guitarists playing the same equipment, same settings, etc. will sound different.
Bruce
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Post by TommyD on May 15, 2014 16:12:52 GMT -6
It's not that I really dislike the tone I'm getting, but I really like your tone and can't seem to get there. I have a Fender Blues Deluxe amp, and play either a Fender 60s Classic Series Stratocaster, or Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster. I'll keep playing with the dials. One of these days you'll hear an "A HA!" echoing far off in the distance. That will me yelling when I finally get the tone dialed in! (or I start playing in such a way that produces the desired tone)
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Post by bluesbruce on May 15, 2014 16:59:44 GMT -6
Wow, Tommy. What I'd strongly recommend is that you box up that amp and send it to me for testing... yeah, and then I'll let you know what I discover about it after a couple of years of strict testing...
Really, I'm confident I can get that thing to work right...
Bruce
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Post by TommyD on May 15, 2014 17:45:52 GMT -6
Yeah, like I said, Bruce, there's nothing wrong with the tone from that amp. It's pretty sweet. There's just something I'm not hearing. Tone can be an illusive thing.
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