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Post by wannaplayblues on Aug 2, 2015 1:56:21 GMT -6
Tough week - get back from holiday and find a million things need to be done Only a handful of hours practiced this week sadly - and I appear to have injured my back now too! So, here's to hoping the coming week will be more productive!
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Post by cunningr on Aug 2, 2015 2:11:16 GMT -6
Good Morning, I have also been on vacation so practice wasn't as planned as I like but got 6 hours of solid practice in mostly in large blocks. I started trying to record a portable full speed version of Rockin and Rollin for Phil, but not sure I'll ever get a version I feel is postable. I have a decent version of delta mood ready for posting for the review, but holding off as I am trying to come up with an extension with Something I came up with, not sure it'll happen several good ideas but nothing clean enough to use.
I spent a lot of time in Blues Rythms You Can Use, working on TRIADs. I have it pretty much memorized and the groove timing is pretty good also just need to improve chord changes and getting the triad shape creamed in on the 11 and 12 fret.
I also reviewed the rythm piece for major blues, and continued excersises from MBYCU lesson 1.
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Post by Phil on Aug 2, 2015 3:12:27 GMT -6
I got in 5 days for a total of 7.75 hours. That including 2 hours trying to get a good take of "True Trem Blues."
I've got the next MBYCU study, "Tremblin' Tremolo," down at a slow speed. I just need to work on speeding it up. I'll be starting on "Groovin' Easy" this week.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 2, 2015 6:14:44 GMT -6
I got in 7 1/2 hours on guitar and 3 1/2 on bass. Did get a little something accomplished this week, what was it now...oh yeah finished More Blues You Can Use I also worked a bit on writing some stuff for Delta Mood, I don't time that because I'm just fooling around with coming up with stuff so it's not really "practice". My solo is sounding more rock than blues (what else is new). I finally bought that EZ Drummer 2 program (and the blues expansion pack of course ) and spent the second half of the week learning how to use that, which consumed most of my guitar practice time. I think I've got a satisfactory drum line made up for Delta Mood. I also downloaded a 10 day free trial of Izotope's Ozone 6, which is mastering software (I used it on Rakin' in the Funk). I really like that program but can't afford to buy it right now; maybe next year Did my usual improvising and looked over Atlantic Coast Soul in the R&B book a bit too.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 2, 2015 6:38:54 GMT -6
and I appear to have injured my back now too! Welcome to the club! I screwed mine up years ago and it still bothers me occasionally, hopefully you'll be more lucky
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 2, 2015 6:41:58 GMT -6
I've been continuing to work on Chord-On Bleu, also playing around with Delta Mood - man, I love that deep delta groove thing! Been having too many "skip" days, without playing that guitar, due to work and family. Well, probably can't do anything about that. My excitement for MBYCU really hasn't vanished, only my available practice time has!
Bruce
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Post by chrisnc on Aug 2, 2015 19:37:58 GMT -6
Didn't get a chance to post in the weekly update last week, but I've still been working on Bending the Blues. I got a couple takes of the slow version recorded last week, here is one that still has a few issues (choked notes, etc.). Bending the Blues - slow - take2Crazy how you think it sounds more fluid when playing and then when you listen to a recording it sounds a lot more mechanical. Anyway, still practicing as much as possible and working through the lessons. We're on vacation/holiday this week, so no guitar, but sometimes I find that taking a break can be a good thing. I've also picked up a Garageband book, so I'm hoping to learn a little more of its capabilities while I'm away from the playing.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 3, 2015 5:45:24 GMT -6
Didn't get a chance to post in the weekly update last week, but I've still been working on Bending the Blues. I got a couple takes of the slow version recorded last week, here is one that still has a few issues (choked notes, etc.). Bending the Blues - slow - take2Crazy how you think it sounds more fluid when playing and then when you listen to a recording it sounds a lot more mechanical. Anyway, still practicing as much as possible and working through the lessons. We're on vacation/holiday this week, so no guitar, but sometimes I find that taking a break can be a good thing. I've also picked up a Garageband book, so I'm hoping to learn a little more of its capabilities while I'm away from the playing. Chris, getting the bends to pitch is the #1 problem everybody here has - welcome to the club Everybody has their own method of working on them, I find it very helpful to play along with John on the CD track; make sure you've got the volume balanced between your guitar and John's so you can hear them both clearly, and then just concentrate 100% on bending up to the same pitches that he does. I never used to care about them too much, I was more interested in getting the fast parts played cleanly. But everyone here was nice enough to point out (repeatedly) how bad mine were, and making them my main priority when practicing was the first step in making some improvements.
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Post by Phil on Aug 3, 2015 7:51:49 GMT -6
Didn't get a chance to post in the weekly update last week, but I've still been working on Bending the Blues. I got a couple takes of the slow version recorded last week, here is one that still has a few issues (choked notes, etc.). Bending the Blues - slow - take2Crazy how you think it sounds more fluid when playing and then when you listen to a recording it sounds a lot more mechanical. Anyway, still practicing as much as possible and working through the lessons. We're on vacation/holiday this week, so no guitar, but sometimes I find that taking a break can be a good thing. I've also picked up a Garageband book, so I'm hoping to learn a little more of its capabilities while I'm away from the playing. Chris, 1st the good news - your timing seems to be right on the money and you're approaching this correctly by playing slowly and going for accuracy. Now for the bad news - the bends are severely flat. Timing is much more important than bending to pitch is. Why? Because you can work around not being able to bend to pitch by using slides, for example. On the other hand, there is no work around if you can't play in proper time. People who have timing issues have to spend a lot of time correcting this. You don't have this problem. Bending to pitch is a problem for all of us. A good way to practice this is to play the target note normally then drop down 2 frets and try to bend until the 2 pitches are the same. You jump back and forth between playing the note and bending up to it. Another way is to bend one string and find the same pitch on the adjacent string like you were tuning your guitar. For example, bend 5th fret 3rd string up a full step and play the 2nd string 3rd fret at the same time. Fool around with the bend until they are both the same pitch. There's no shortcut. It takes a lot of practice. I hope to be able to do it someday myself.
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Post by chrisnc on Aug 3, 2015 9:04:25 GMT -6
Ok, so feedback accepted on the bends. Here is the deal, I had a work related injury a year ago that damaged my ulnar nerve right where it is exposed by the elbow. This is the central nerve for everything in your arm, and needs to 'glide' easily and not get knotted up like mine is. Unfortunately, I still don't have full strength and I'm finding bending to full pitch bend on certain strings very difficult still. I've been doing a lot of extra work trying to find stuff that might help, and continue to try to do exercises, etc. to strengthen it. Guitar setup has been tweaked a lot lately as well, string gauge, tremolo setup, action, etc. As far as technique, I do pretty much all of the above mentioned items including practicing with a tuner, hearing the pitch two frets up, etc. Pitch isn't the issue for me, unfortunately, it's more mechanical. Unfortunately, it's also very frustrating because bends are such a HUGE part of the Blues. I also have some issues with being able to stretch my fingers apart real wide, so even the first few lessons in the BRYCU book are a challenge and after one run, result in some pain or tension.
Having said all of that, I really, really want to progress with Blues playing and I'm finding that what I may do is continue to work on lessons and songs with large bends in parallel with other lessons that are a little more straight forward or don't require as many bends. I'm sure over time I'll get there, but this injury is more of a set back with some lessons than others and more than I thought it would be.
I'm also open to suggestions from the group as well. Anyone else have ulnar nerve issues and been able to get it completely healed? Or any other suggestions on maybe alternate technique for bends based on this?
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Post by cunningr on Aug 3, 2015 9:51:27 GMT -6
Chris, What gauge strings are you using? Going going down another gauge will help, your strength issue. However, the bending my actually be beneficial for your condition, all of had an issue with flat bends (I still do) but we all had to develop more strength. I am sure you'll get there, just remember not to do anything to over excert. My here are some strength building tools around also.
Oh one other trick is to tune to e flat, like SRV bending is easier but you have to adjust the backing track pitch flat as well.
Keep hitting, Rich
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 3, 2015 10:25:08 GMT -6
Going to lighter gauge strings will help, like Rich said (I think one of the guys from ZZ Top uses .008's and he doesn't sound too bad ), and also make sure you're using extra fingers to help bend like this: That way you only need to provide one-third of the force with each finger. Or maybe that's not applicable to your injury, but I just thought I'd mention it. Also, although the "correct" way to bend is to pivot your wrist, you can also bend by leaving your wrist stationary and just pushing the string up by extending your fingers. That's the "wrong" way to do it but if it helps take the stress off your injury, it might be worth a try.
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Post by joachim on Aug 3, 2015 11:35:43 GMT -6
Ok, so feedback accepted on the bends. Here is the deal, I had a work related injury a year ago that damaged my ulnar nerve right where it is exposed by the elbow. This is the central nerve for everything in your arm, and needs to 'glide' easily and not get knotted up like mine is. Unfortunately, I still don't have full strength and I'm finding bending to full pitch bend on certain strings very difficult still. I've been doing a lot of extra work trying to find stuff that might help, and continue to try to do exercises, etc. to strengthen it. Guitar setup has been tweaked a lot lately as well, string gauge, tremolo setup, action, etc. As far as technique, I do pretty much all of the above mentioned items including practicing with a tuner, hearing the pitch two frets up, etc. Pitch isn't the issue for me, unfortunately, it's more mechanical. Unfortunately, it's also very frustrating because bends are such a HUGE part of the Blues. I also have some issues with being able to stretch my fingers apart real wide, so even the first few lessons in the BRYCU book are a challenge and after one run, result in some pain or tension. Having said all of that, I really, really want to progress with Blues playing and I'm finding that what I may do is continue to work on lessons and songs with large bends in parallel with other lessons that are a little more straight forward or don't require as many bends. I'm sure over time I'll get there, but this injury is more of a set back with some lessons than others and more than I thought it would be. I'm also open to suggestions from the group as well. Anyone else have ulnar nerve issues and been able to get it completely healed? Or any other suggestions on maybe alternate technique for bends based on this? Chrisn, I had a bad finger injury myself last year, which also kept me away from playing all summer. Even though it's frustrating, you need to think of your well-being in the long run, and stop playing if you feel any pain at all - otherwise your elbow might go from bad to worse. Don't worry about the bends, stretching for big chords, or other stuff, just get better. Play something easier and the rest will follow. And put lighter strings on until you're OK again - Yngwie Malmsteen also plays with 8s, and he has both great hair and a nice leather vest..
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Post by cunningr on Aug 3, 2015 15:05:23 GMT -6
Billy Gibbons has been known to play .007's also. I think Joachim got what I was trying to say much clearer, excercise is good but don't over do it. Lots of picking excersises and scale practice can go along way.
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Post by Phil on Aug 3, 2015 15:36:16 GMT -6
Chris,
Sorry to hear about your hand problem. I don't have your particular problem so I can't comment on what you should or shouldn't do. One day I'll do a video showing the problems I have with my fretting hand, but for the moment I'll just say that I have to find work-arounds for many things. The biggest problem being my inability to hold barre chords or even play them at all in some cases because of severe pain.
I'll tell you what I would do in your situation. 1). Substitute a slide whenever possible. 2). Only do half-tone bends as you seem to be able to do those. Start 1 fret below the target note instead of 2 and bend a half-step, or slide one fret and bend a half-step from there. I'll bet that when you can do this smoothly nobody will even notice.
The point is not to let one troublesome technique get in your way. Find a creative way around the problem. My problem with barre chords has forced me to find other voicings, especially 3 note chords for which a barre isn't needed. Finding other voicings in turn lead me to get interested in Jazz guitar which I plan on pursuing.
Don't beat your head against the wall or kill yourself trying to get over the wall. Find a way around it. When you're dealing with a physical problem that limits certain techniques just think about Django Reinhardt. If you're not familiar with him look him up. He only had 2 fully functional fingers on his fretting hand. His story is a real inspiration to those of us with physical problems to deal with.
Hang in there and find a creative way around this bending problem.
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Post by chrisnc on Aug 3, 2015 19:09:18 GMT -6
Thanks fellas, all good feedback. I have tried lighter strings, but snapped a high E string at the 10th fret on this same lesson. There isn't a ton of pain, but strength is definitely an issue. Just harder to build up because of the injury, even though I've come a long way with physical therapy. I don't bend with fingers (bad), but bend with the wrist as you should, and use typically 3 fingers. I also use my thumb for leverage and as kind of an anchor.
Phil, I like the idea of the half step bend, played one fret up. I might try that in addition to continuing with full step bends to increase my strength and ability. I don't want it to become the norm though.
I'm sure over time it will improve.
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Post by jack1982 on Aug 4, 2015 5:01:24 GMT -6
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Post by bluesbruce on Aug 4, 2015 6:00:15 GMT -6
Good idea, Jack. As someone who rarely changes their strings, I usually know it's time to change 'em when that high E string breaks. I've definitely bought individual E strings before - seems like I used to break them more when I played acoustic all the time, and those strings were really heavy - go figure.
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Post by wannaplayblues on Aug 4, 2015 14:16:17 GMT -6
... but you have to adjust the backing track pitch flat as well. Alternatively you can play everything a fret higher than written if you tune down to Eb tuning.
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Post by Phil on Aug 4, 2015 15:07:34 GMT -6
... but you have to adjust the backing track pitch flat as well. Alternatively you can play everything a fret higher than written if you tune down to Eb tuning. It makes my head hurt to even think about doing that.
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